FIRST GENERATION OF ROCK & ROLL

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FROM R & B TO ROCK AND ROLL, -- NOW THEY CALL IT 'DOOWOP'
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IVE BEEN LOVING RHYTHM AND BLUES SINCE THE EARLY FORTY'S.
AND DANCING IN JHS (LATE 40s EARLY FIFTY'S) TO WYNONIE 'BLUES" HARRIS SINCE THEN. THE AFTERNOON AND EVENING SCHOOL CENTERS HAD A VICTROLA AND RECORDS (78s) TO DANCE TO,

WE BROUGHT OUR OWN IF WE HAD ANY, BUT A TEACHER WHO MOONLIGHTED AT NIGHT IN THE NIGHT CENTER WAS A JAZZ AND R & B
FAN AND HE USED TO BRING SOME GREAT RECORDS IN FOR US TO DANCE TO.

SOME OF THEM WERE MARKED FOR DISC JOCKEYS
(NOT FOR DISTRIBUTION) I DONT KNOW WERE HE GOT THEM BUT BOY
HE SURE TAUGHT US TO LOVE THAT STUFF LIKE WYNONIE'S
1.GOOD ROCKIN TONIGHT***
2 BLOODSHOT EYES ***
3.SHAKE THAT THING
4.DRINKIN WINE SPO-D-ODEE ***
5.SITTIN ON IT ALL THE TIME
*** DENOTES FAVORITES

YOU GET THE IDEA IT WAS R&B FIRST CLASS AND IT WAS REALLY THE BEGINNING OF ROCK AND ROLL'S FIRST GENERATION, THEN WE HAD R & B VOCAL GROUP HARMONY
(BLACK BIRD GROUPS,THE RAVENS, THE CROWS THEN GROUPS NAMED AFTER CARS, THE CADILLACS ETC ).

ME AND SOME FRIENDS WERE BOPPIN ALONG ON WEBSTER AVE AND TREMONT AVE IN THE BRONX IN THE EARLY FIFTYS WHEN A YOUNGER GUY FROM OUR BLOCK CALLED US AND SAID DID YOU EVER HEAR THIS,?
HE HAD A PORTABLE RADIO AND IT WAS PLAYING 'GEE' BY THE CROWS AND THEN 'I LOVE YOU SO' ALSO BY THE CROWS,
(LATER DONE BY 'HER HIGHNESS ARLENE SMITH' AND THE CHANTELS,) WE ALL WERE HOOKED AND WE KEPT THE GUY WITH THE RADIO WITH US ALL DAY, HEY HE HAD A RADIO HE BECAME OUR BEST PAL.

HIS NAME IS EARL CARTER AND HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT OLD ARMY JINGLE
'BE ALL YOU CAN BE' IN THE ARMY.
I STILL HEAR FROM HIM AND I REMIND HIM ABOUT THAT DAY , MY LIFE WAS NEVER THE SAME AFTER HEARING THIS WONDERFUL MUSIC,

THIS WAS THE MUSIC FOR ME, THIS STUFF WAS THE BEGINNING.
THE DOOWOP NAME FOR THIS GENRE DIDNT START TILL THE EARLY SIXTY' SUPPOSEDLY WHEN GUS GOSSERT WAS PLAYING :
'MY HEARTS DESIRE'--BY THE WHEELS, THEY KEEP SINGING DOOWOP, DOOWOP, DOOWOP, AND AFTER THE SONG WAS OVER GUS SAID THAT'S SOME GOOD DOOWOP SONG.

IVE HEARD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE EXPRESS WHAT THEY CONSIDER DOOWOP, THIS GROUP IS DOOWOP, THAT GROUP ISNT DOOWOP,

WELL MY TWO CENTS IS, IT'S ALL DOOWOP EVEN GREAT DUETS LIKE JOHNNY AND JOES, 'OVER THE MOUNTAIN' OR 'YOUR MINE' BY ROBERT AND JOHNNY
OR 'WHATS YOUR NAME' BY DON AND JUAN OR ANY TRIO OR MORE ALL THE WAY TO FOUR OR FIVE PART HARMONYS, IT SURE MAKES ME FEEL GOOD AND I CONSIDER IT ALL DOOWOP.

BTW IN THE LATE 40s EARLY 50s I WAS A BIG FAN OF 'THE FOUR ACES' AND THEY USED TO SING A LOT OF DOO-WAHs, DOO-WAHs.


***ITS REALLY R&B VOCAL GROUP HARMONY. (FIRST GENERATION OF ROCK AND ROLL).***

EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN IDEAS, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IF YOU ENJOY IT, THEN ENJOY IT ALL.

I GUESS WHAT IM TRYING TO SAY IS 'I LOVE THIS MUSIC' AND I DONT CARE WHAT ANYONE CALLS IT, I CANT BREATH IF I DONT HEAR THIS GREAT MUSIC EVERYDAY.

MY TWO CENTS
THANK YOU
JIMMY

BTW THE NOISE YOU HEARD WAS ME GETTING OFF MY SOAP BOX.

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LISTENING TO DOOWOP IS HABIT FORMING

AND LARGE DOSES ARE RECOMMENDED


JIMMY

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1ST..** IT WAS R &B FIRST CLASS, AND IT WAS REALLY THE BEGINNING OF ROCK AND ROLL'S FIRST GENERATION.

2ND.** THEN WE HAD R & B VOCAL GROUP HARMONY.
(BLACK BIRD GROUPS, THE RAVENS, THE CROWS THEN GROUPS NAMED AFTER CARS, THE CADILLACS ETC ).

PLEASE TAKE NOTE**THIS MUSIC WAS AROUND SINCE THE EARLY 50s A DECADE ALREADY.***
THE DOOWOP NAME WAS USED FOR THIS GENRE.
THE NAME DOOWOP DIDNT START TILL THE EARLY SIXTY' SUPPOSEDLY WHEN DJ GUS GOSSERT WAS PLAYING :
'MY HEARTS DESIRE'--BY THE WHEELS,
THEY KEEP SINGING DOOWOP, DOOWOP, DOOWOP, AND AFTER THE SONG WAS OVER GUS SAID THAT'S SOME GOOD DOOWOP SONG.

IVE HEARD A NUMBER OF PEOPLE EXPRESS WHAT THEY CONSIDER DOOWOP, THIS GROUP IS DOOWOP, THAT GROUP ISNT DOOWOP,

WELL MY TWO CENTS IS, IT'S ALL DOOWOP
EVEN GREAT DUETS LIKE JOHNNY AND JOES, 'OVER THE MOUNTAIN',
OR 'YOUR MINE' BY ROBERT AND JOHNNY
OR 'WHATS YOUR NAME' BY DON AND JUAN OR ANY TRIO OR MORE ALL THE WAY TO FOUR OR FIVE PART HARMONYS.
I CONSIDER IT ALL DOOWOP.

IN THE EARLY 50s IN DOORWAYS, HALLWAYS, SUBWAY TUNNELS AND IN SCHOOL YARDS ALL OVER THE CITY OF N.Y., GROUPS OF TWO, THREE, FOUR AND FIVE, SOMETIMES SIX WOULD BE SINGING FOR THEIR OWN ENJOYMENT AT FIRST,
THEN TRYING TO GET A RECORD DEAL AFTER MAKING A DEMO AND BRINGING IT ALL OVER THE BRILL BUILDING IN NYC.SHOPPING IT AROUND.

IN HARLEM, OR THE BRONX, EVERYWHERE YOU WENT, IN PARKS, SCHOOLYARDS, AND AFTER AWHILE IN THE TRIBOROUGH MOVIE AT 125ST AND LEXINGTON AVE, AFTER THE MOVIES WERE OVER THE WEISS BROTHERS HY, AND SAM, FROM 'OLDTOWN' RECORDS WOULD HAVE AUDITIONS LOOKING FOR GROUPS TO RECORD, SOME GUYS WOULD SING WITH A FEW GROUPS. A LOT OF THESE GUYS WERE GREAT AND SHOULD OF GOT A CONTRACT. BUT NEVER WAS LUCKY TO GRAB THE WEISS BROTHERS ATTENTION.

THESE YOUNG GUYS WANTED TO GET A RECORD OUT THERE SO AS TO IMPRESS THE GALS AND MAYBE MAKE SOME MONEY.
MOST WERE STILL IN SCHOOL, JHS OR HIGH SCHOOL.

MOST OF THESE RECORDING COMPANYS TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THESE GUYS.
SOME NEVER RECEIVED ANY MONEY AT ALL.

THIS WAS AS I SAID IN THE BEGINNING R&B, WAS THE FIRST GENERATION OF ROCK AND ROLL (WHICH MEANT IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY "MAKING LOVE")
"ROCKIN AND ROLLIN".

VOCAL GROUP HARMONY.IVE HEARD HERB COX OF
'THE CLEFTONES' SAY HE NEVER CALLS IT DOOWOP, ITS VOCAL GROUP HARMONY.
HE WAS THERE.

I WAS AROUND WHEN THIS GREAT MUSIC HIT THE AIRWAVES, AND THERE WERE SOME GREAT CONCERTS ALL OVER, IVE BEEN HOOKED SINCE THEN.

THIS IS MY TRUTH. TAKE IT TO THE BANK.!!!
JIMMY

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Great imput from you Jimmy. BTW: Nice to see you posting.

[Fran Gyomory]

Hey Jimmy, how are you and Jeannie!!!!!

[Barry]

Like you Jimmy I love Doo Wop music. Oh those slow dancing songs. Been dancin with the same girl for over 40 years. You mentioned the Cleftones they are one of the few up tempo groups I like

[carjoh5]

Jimmy,
[glow=red,2,300]I LOVE R&R (DOO WOP) [/glow]
LOVE IT, LOVE IT, LOVE IT. BTW, did I say how much I love it.. LOL
And I also love the CANDY STORE, but you all know that!!

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JUST SO YOU DONT FORGET ME.

ON THE WAY TO MY CARDIOLIGIST THIS PM.
AHHH THE 'GOLDEN YEARS' -THATS A LOT OF HORSEPIT.

I KNOW I POSTED THIS WEBSITE WITH THE DOOWOP JUKEBOX HALL OF FAME I HAD A LITTLE TO DO WITH CREATING.
BUT HERE IT IS AGAIN, ENJOY KIDS.

doowopjukeboxhalloffame.com/HOF.html

JIMMY 'THE DOOWOP GEEZER'

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NO TAKERS HEH?
ALRIGHT FOR YOUSE GUYS.