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Post by Lenny on Dec 7, 2007 16:37:51 GMT -5
During the draft years the National Guard was only used domestically and the men drafted into the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines went abroad to fight the wars.
Now that the there is no more draft, the only volunteer army we have is the Army National Guard who are sent abroad to fight the wars along with the Marines, Navy and Air Force.
If the draft were reinstated, then we would have an Army and the National Guard would be used exclusively for homefront issues.
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Post by Barry on Dec 7, 2007 16:55:20 GMT -5
Lenny I think if you volunteer for the Army your in the Army not the Army National guard. In war time the Guard can be call to serve with the regular Army
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2007 17:08:05 GMT -5
i think barry is right ---you signed up to the guard to avoid the draft and you hoped for 7 yrs that nothing would happen -----------------you paid your money and you took your chances
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Post by wheezie on Dec 7, 2007 17:31:47 GMT -5
My ex got his "token" to report for the draft, and then joined the National Guard to avoid the draft. It worked, and he did his six months and then weekends and two weeks a year for what seemed forever. It lasted long after we were married. At least he didn't flee to Canada!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2007 18:01:41 GMT -5
Barry is correct!
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Post by pegleg on Dec 8, 2007 1:14:13 GMT -5
During the draft years the National Guard was only used domestically and the men drafted into the Army, Air Force, Navy and Marines went abroad to fight the wars. Now that the there is no more draft, the only volunteer army we have is the Army National Guard who are sent abroad to fight the wars along with the Marines, Navy and Air Force. If the draft were reinstated, then we would have an Army and the National Guard would be used exclusively for homefront issues. Ya lost me.... ALL of the services today are volunteer- Army, Navy, AF, CG, National Guard, Air Natl Guard, etc. That's been true since Nixon's presidency. All of the branches have Regular and Reserve (Active and Inactive) components, again all volunteer. And they all serve as integrated, Joint, units - more so than at any time in the past. The National Guards have always been available to serve as war-fighting units. I'm not sure what your point is? As an aside, I think you'd be surprised at the number of troops who served their initial term, went into the Inactive Reserves, and then decided to come back on Active duty after 9/11. There is no one on active duty today who didn't know full well that they would likely be sent to Iraq, Afghanistan, or some other hell hole, when they volunteered to sign-up, or re-up. None. We owe them a debt that can't be repaid. Correct me if I missed your point???
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Post by Lenny on Dec 8, 2007 5:21:11 GMT -5
Pegleg...I guess I was just confused about the role of the National Guard. I know all the services are volunteer today, but I remember the National Guard was separate and distinct and thought they were strictly for service here on the mainland while the Army, Navy, Marines and Air Force went abroad during world conflicts. During the draft, I think the government could assign a man to any of the services, not just strictly the Army. Wasn't The Armory on Kingsbridge Rd a National Guard facility? I also remember the Veterans Hospital was close by, I think on Gunhill Road. It's been 39 years since I lived in the Bronx so I try to recall these things. I don't think you missed my point....I think I did. Just confused I guess, after all this time!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2007 7:43:33 GMT -5
Yes, the Armory on Kingsbridge road was a NY State Army National Guard facility. The VA Hospital was (back in the day) at the corner of Kingsbridge Road and the Grand Concourse. It has been located at Kingsbridge and Sedgewick Ave for many years.
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Post by Preacher Mike on Dec 8, 2007 8:22:09 GMT -5
National Guards are under the state government, until federalize( callup)
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Post by CQuinn on Dec 8, 2007 17:15:13 GMT -5
You got it Mike. The National Guard is a volunteer state militia subject to Federalization. It's primary function was for controlling state disasters or civil unrest. In the Second World War and Korea they were the first to go ... in Viet Nam I don't think any Guardsmen went ... today with no draft and a shortage of trained military people they're very vulnerable. And it's sad most are older and joined for extra income.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2007 17:23:10 GMT -5
Charlie, I believe you are correct about the Viet Nam era. The guys that were able to land billets with the Guard remained in the U.S. for their enlistment.
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